tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post7788905945635784701..comments2024-01-31T09:23:26.925+00:00Comments on Noel O'Blog: Scooby, D. D., where are you? - Searching for papers onlineNoel O'Boylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03288289351940689018noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post-50565760411250607732007-09-07T07:45:00.000+01:002007-09-07T07:45:00.000+01:00Noel, on PubMed you can also do "Hawkins[au] Basac...Noel, on PubMed you can also do "Hawkins[au] Basack[au]", but given that the names are quite unique it would not improve. Just a general tip.Egon Willighagenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07470952136305035540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post-91573151177040104412007-09-05T19:17:00.000+01:002007-09-05T19:17:00.000+01:00@Rich: Or even RubMed?@Rich: Or even RubMed?Noel O'Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288289351940689018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post-14318504920849173132007-09-05T19:09:00.000+01:002007-09-05T19:09:00.000+01:00@mike: Thanks for that. So it seems that on the AC...@mike: Thanks for that. So it seems that on the ACS website, if you know two surnames you're fine. The problem is finding papers by a single person whose initials you know, which was the actual problem (I just digressed a bit in my blog post to bulk it up a bit :-) ).<BR/><BR/>About two years ago, JCICS and JCID joined to form JCIM. So it's actually quite a nice feature that it searches the historical ancestor of JCIM.<BR/><BR/>It's interesting that you use Google instead of Google Scholar. "site:" is one of a really useful feature of Google that I keep forgetting. For example to search the CCL mailing list, you can use "site:ccl.net".<BR/><BR/>Regarding quick indexing by Google, it's not so surprising given that Google owns Blogger since earlier this year. It's strange it comes top of the list though - I wonder does it prioritise Blogger posts in search results. I'm not sure though whether being top of the list for "basak hawkins dm" is equivalent to the Slashdot effect.<BR/><BR/>@rich: Incidentally, I also checked up Hubmed ("Pubmed reloaded") but it's the same old Pubmed syntax. It might be nice to have a BOMed, where some web savvy chemist has created a Web of Knowledge-type interface to Pubmed. Hint, hint :-)Noel O'Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288289351940689018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post-49354839775472161912007-09-05T18:51:00.000+01:002007-09-05T18:51:00.000+01:00Make that "PubMed", not "PubChem".Make that "PubMed", not "PubChem".Rich Apodacahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995006481691926615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post-534910476555044172007-09-05T18:49:00.000+01:002007-09-05T18:49:00.000+01:00I've had exactly the same experience with the ACS ...I've had exactly the same experience with the ACS site - even for subjects. I thought it was just me. My fall-backs are SciFinder (when I had access to it) or even Google. Good to know PubChem works (and how it works).Rich Apodacahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995006481691926615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7844526396210378482.post-51442206444310624202007-09-05T16:47:00.000+01:002007-09-05T16:47:00.000+01:00Hi. I have just read your post and thought I'd hav...Hi. I have just read your post and thought I'd have a go at searching for those articles you mention. It also annoys me that article searching is such an art rather than the easy understandable task it should be. I always seem to end up spending more time than I should of searching for papers that I know exsist! <BR/><BR/>So here's my attempt (for what it is worth). If you search for Hawkins from the JCIM TOC page it returns 10 results (Hawkins DM and Hawkins DT) then I searched for Basack using the 'Search within results' box you get the 5 articles you refer to. <BR/><BR/>It is strange that it searches both JCIM and JCompInfSci at the same time. When you search all of the ACS for Hawkins you get 311 results then searching for Basak gives you 7, two are for Hawkins GD and irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>Next, Google. I do think Google Scholar is good but it is more like a shotgun rather than a scalpel. If you use <B>site:pubs.acs.org basak hawkins</B> you return 6 results 3 of which are from JCIM and JCompInfSci, again it is strange that the search misses 2 of the articles. Just a quick side note if you do a normal web search for <B>basak hawkins dm</B> your blog post is the first result so you can't complain that google isn't up to date.<BR/><BR/>Using thee Web of Knowledge finds 5 articles for DM Hawkins in JCIM and JCompInfSci and 4 with Basak. I never use PubMed, I can never seem to work it out either. Still some way to go before Google becomes my default scholarly search engine.<BR/><BR/>PS Like the blog.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16262527690099629166noreply@blogger.com